Samurai Warriors 3 (Sengoku Musou 3)

[Zhenji]

Some new characters have been shown in the Samurai Warriors 3 teaser trailer... We have 2 screens to show, a female and a dude! Not sure who are they yet...

[Zhou Yu]

the guy looks almost sort like Taigon wang from wariors orochi

[Xiu Lao]

well I didn't like this game, since it looks kinda Dump to me, I don't know but the actions of doing missions and destroying strongholds looks kinda stupid, its like if its stupid army-Vs- retarded Army...

when the leader says "we got to take there supply base", then you find there there is NONE of your allies heading there to do it, no help, its all do it-yourself buddy, sheeshe was a waste of time was it... at least it was better than that Demon knight or Demon knight Game...


kinda like that... maybe I am confused when I was typing it... you guys know me when I get confused ^^;;

[wukong]

Lao... you do know that Dynasty Warriors is the SAME THING right? And I honestly think Samurai Warriors has much cooler people. Ninjas? Hello? Not that I'm a ninja fanboy. I like it because many of my favorite people in history are from Sengoku Japan, and have parts in the game. And dude, how is a cannon-spear (unrealistic as it may be) not totally awesome as a warriors weapon?

There are at least two individuals I'm looking for in this game: Sarutobi Sasuke, one of ten elite ninja who guarded Yukimura. And Sanada Nobuyuki, Yukimura's older brother and Inahima's husband.

[Xiu Lao]

Dec 16, 2008 16:38:28 GMT wukong said:

Lao... you do know that Dynasty Warriors is the SAME THING right? And I honestly think Samurai Warriors has much cooler people. Ninjas? Hello? Not that I'm a ninja fanboy. I like it because many of my favorite people in history are from Sengoku Japan, and have parts in the game. And dude, how is a cannon-spear (unrealistic as it may be) not totally awesome as a warriors weapon?

There are at least two individuals I'm looking for in this game: Sarutobi Sasuke, one of ten elite ninja who guarded Yukimura. And Sanada Nobuyuki, Yukimura's older brother and Inahima's husband.

talk about the New DW6 and then tell me if Samurai warriors are better than DW, seriously they at least Feel your loneliness in DW6 and Officers are more talkative.

[Inoue Kumikõ]

I think that, If you compare the Samurai Warriors series' to Dynasty Warriors 5 and under, it should win. SW is much more historic that DW is also, It rarely deviates from the history and in SW2 they had the Dream stages as a what-if to History.


Anyway,
SW3, I am SO excited. I love SW so much. If they change Ina, Ginchiyo or Yoshihiro, I'm complaining .
Anyway, Lao, You say that in DW6 they made improvements with Character aid e.t.c Don't you think they'll do that with SW3? They will probably use the DW6 physics engine too, so there may be a lot of similarity between DW6 and SW3 because I don't think they will completley start afresh.

[wukong]

Some of the DW6 physics weren't that great to me... room for improvement, Koei? *burst out laughing* Yeah right, if Koei learned from its mistakes, then DW6 would be a much different game. When you think about it, it took them until number 6 to add more to gameplay than mindless running around/fighting.

At least SW did something new with Samurai Warriors Katana for Wii. I loved the whole "First Person Shooter" aspect, as well as weak spots on the enemies' bodies to add more realism to the fights.

But yes, I am excited about Samurai Warriors 3. There are characters I hope never change, like Musashi, Kojiro, Ieyasu. Then there are those I think could do with improvement, like Mitsunari (hated him) and Motochika (his horse attack was so lame). Not to mention, I hope they don't screw Hideyoshi over in the legendary weapon department. I swear, that poor little guy gets the worst weapons in the "Warriors" history.

[Inoue Kumikõ]

I think Mitsunari is quite good, but he has always been a defence character, rather than crush everything. With his 4th weapon, he can be quite the fighter.
I still haven't player Katana yet, it has appealed to me, but I have always bought something else. My birthday is 18th January maybe I'll get it then. I hope they change Ieyasu, I hate him so much! I love Kojiro though and don't really care for Musashi but like I said, I just want Ina, Ginchiyo and Yoshihiro (A.K.A. my WO team) to be the same. I also want them to improve Okuni, Nagamasa, Ranmaru and Masamune (I prefered his SW weapons/moves).

Also, I thought DW6 was very good, SSX was the best (IMO) and it seemed to make it more of a 'that period of time' battle situation. Obviously, it did have it's downfalls. I liked the Renbu system, but there should have been more charge attacks. But I do hope they add more to SW3, to make it unique to DW.

[Xiu Lao]

Dec 21, 2008 22:04:49 GMT wukong said:

Some of the DW6 physics weren't that great to me... room for improvement, Koei? *burst out laughing* Yeah right, if Koei learned from its mistakes, then DW6 would be a much different game. When you think about it, it took them until number 6 to add more to gameplay than mindless running around/fighting.

At least SW did something new with Samurai Warriors Katana for Wii. I loved the whole "First Person Shooter" aspect, as well as weak spots on the enemies' bodies to add more realism to the fights.

But yes, I am excited about Samurai Warriors 3. There are characters I hope never change, like Musashi, Kojiro, Ieyasu. Then there are those I think could do with improvement, like Mitsunari (hated him) and Motochika (his horse attack was so lame). Not to mention, I hope they don't screw Hideyoshi over in the legendary weapon department. I swear, that poor little guy gets the worst weapons in the "Warriors"
; history.

now listen here SMART GUY... the System on PS2 cant hold all these moments, and there is limits in the Systems, no wonder sometimes you face some lag in the battles while playing around so many men, if they does solve all the problems in DW while its still in DW they will just put it for PC only and it will be to heavy for PS2, but not that PS3 is much developed it can hold all these Commanding systems in the game which makes it look much more natural...

now... where was I?...

oh yeah! I WILL RIP YOUR MOUTH LU XUN!!! *Jumps on Lu Xun*

[wukong]

Ok, I'm starting to get annoyed with your constant attacking of Lu Xun. I don't care what your character feels and thinks in game, but this isn't in game. So, you leave me to assume that you have some kind of problem with me. Can you please grow up and learn not to act like your character when out of game? Thank you.

Yes, we all know the PS2 release was a piece of crap in the graphic department. But I honestly think the PS3/360 version also sucked. I mean come on, 7 characters were cut from the game entirely, and of the remaining 40, only 20 had stories? Then you add in the fact that the other 20 were just graphic clones of the 20 who did have stories, and you wanna tell me that that game was a masterpiece compared to SW2 and SW2 XL? Come back when Koei decides to complete DW6 before you try and tell me how good it is. Thank you very much.

Yes, I'll say it: DW6 killed my faith in the Dynasty Warriors games. So Samurai Warriors is all I got now. Oh and Orochi, can't forget about those. I loved the Mystics in the 2nd game, and Wukong! <3

[Xiu Lao]

Dec 23, 2008 2:45:47 GMT wukong said:

Ok, I'm starting to get annoyed with your constant attacking of Lu Xun. I don't care what your character feels and thinks in game, but this isn't in game. So, you leave me to assume that you have some kind of problem with me. Can you please grow up and learn not to act like your character when out of game? Thank you.

Yes, we all know the PS2 release was a piece of crap in the graphic department. But I honestly think the PS3/360 version also sucked. I mean come on, 7 characters were cut from the game entirely, and of the remaining 40, only 20 had stories? Then you add in the fact that the other 20 were just graphic clones of the 20 who did have stories, and you wanna tell me that that game was a masterpiece compared to SW2 and SW2 XL? Come back when Koei decides to complete DW6 before you try and tell me how good it is. Thank you very much.

Yes, I'll say it: DW6 killed my faith in the Dynasty Warriors games. So Samurai Warriors is all I got now. Oh and Orochi, can't forget about those. I loved the Mystics in the 2nd game, and Wukong! <3

okay... here I though you would find my Way of making jokes about Lao's Hated words are funny, but you probably didn't get the joke of it.

ohh well, I honestly Like Lu Xun myself, seriously I do, he is beyond Perfect in DW6 now, dont get me wrong but there is things that can be so awesome when you can be his Rival XD.

anyways I dont need to have something against you, in fact we are just buddies here, Ask Zhou Yu about me I might be really pissing others off, but I am trying the best I could to befriend with everyone here.

[Inoue Kumikõ]

Dec 23, 2008 2:45:47 GMT wukong said:

Ok, I'm starting to get annoyed with your constant attacking of Lu Xun. I don't care what your character feels and thinks in game, but this isn't in game. So, you leave me to assume that you have some kind of problem with me. Can you please grow up and learn not to act like your character when out of game? Thank you.

Yes, we all know the PS2 release was a piece of crap in the graphic department. But I honestly think the PS3/360 version also sucked. I mean come on, 7 characters were cut from the game entirely, and of the remaining 40, only 20 had stories? Then you add in the fact that the other 20 were just graphic clones of the 20 who did have stories, and you wanna tell me that that game was a masterpiece compared to SW2 and SW2 XL? Come back when Koei decides to complete DW6 before you try and tell me how good it is. Thank you very much.

Yes, I'll say it: DW6 killed my faith in the Dynasty Warriors games. So Samurai Warriors is all I got now. Oh and Orochi, can't forget about those. I loved the Mystics in the 2nd game, and Wukong! <3

And we still have DW6: Empires to go, maybe room for improvement still. One thing that does interest me about DW6:E would be, what are they going to be doing for Generic Characters (a.k.a Jian Yong, Cao Xing, Hu Che Er e.t.c).

Back to SW.

I don't think they'll add Sarutobi Sasuke, because Kunoichi was made as a counter-act to the Ninja and because making one would may mean that they may eventually have to make the other nine.
For people I'd like as characters there's probably:
Nobuyuki Sanada (Like Lu Xun), Hidetada Tokugawa (He was around for a while, and really kicked in around the Sekigahara period and of course, became the 2nd shogun). And I think that's about it really >.> . There's no point in having Hideyori Toyotomi, since all he famously did was defend Osaka Castle, in which he failed eventually tried a rebellion again and failed and commited seppuku (Hara-Kiri in popular terms). Maybe Nagahide Niwa would a nice addition... He appeared quite a few times. I wish there were a book like RoTK but for the SW period (although there probably is, I haven't heard of it yet).

[wukong]

Normally, I'd agree with you, except that they CUT KUNOICHI from the series, so now the Sanada Ten Braves stands empty and lonely for characters. Sasuke had a rival (forgot his name) that would make a nice addition too to add substance to Sasuke's musou mode. I think they should scrap Magoichi and use a historical one like Suzuki (at least then his story would fit into the history). Don't you think the Hojo could have a story? Not all of them but maybe Ujimasa or Ujiteru?

And what's wrong with including people famous for only one battle? By that logic, then Motochika should be scrapped because Shikoku is all he's famous for. I wish they wouldn't include characters that never fought in any of the battles and were just famous for being related to another famous person. coughGraciaandOkunicough. Speaking of people famous for only one battle, what about Imagawa Yoshimoto? His story didn't even include Okehazama at all! And you don't think Masayuki Sanada should have a story?

They focus more on the Oda Period again. The fact they originally cut Okehzama from the game, stripped Ranmaru of a story, and started Hideyoshi's with Yamazaki takes away from the Oda and gives more to the Sekigahara time frame. Nothing wrong with it, but the Sengoku era actually ended with Odawara castle, so Koei had SW2 focus on a time that wasn't even Sengoku at all. I really think more focus should be returned to the Oda, Takeda, and Uesugi clans.

[wukong]

Is this really gonna be for Wii only? If so then I'm never playing their games again.

First they kill my faith in Dynasty but now they wanna dangle the series I DO like just out of my reach? Why, Koei? WHY??? *cries*

I mean really. They don't honestly expect their DISAPPOINTED fans to by a frigging Wii out of faith in one of their games do they? Especially after the big DW6 let down? I say it's an elaborate suicide... maybe someone's twisted idea of Seppuku after the failure of DW6?

[Inoue Kumikõ]

Dec 24, 2008 5:29:13 GMT wukong said:

Normally, I'd agree with you, except that they CUT KUNOICHI from the series, so now the Sanada Ten Braves stands empty and lonely for characters.

Yes, but when they cut Kunoichi, who did they bring?
Nene Toyotomi. I think she is better than Kunoichi anyway, even though she isn't exactly famous. maybe the one of the Braves would be a nice addition, but Koei probably won't.
The Hojo may be a nice addition, they did fight the Uesugi, Takeda and Toyotomi (And maybe the Oda...).
I agree with you on the Okuni + Gracia issue, Gracia is a lame character but Okuni isn't that bad if you get used to her and level her up a bit. And regarding Motochika, he was most famous for Shikoku, but he also had his own territory and was constantly at battle with the Mori (and eventually the Shimazu, I think) and he's one of the one's the Mori and Chosocabe were always after each other. It wouldn't suprise me if we saw a Mori character in SW3. Yoshimoto was probably brought in because of his friendship with Ieyasu e.t.c.



And that they have made it a Wii exclusive... that sucks. I'd much rather it on X360, but, DW6 was exclusive to X360 and PS3, then it was released for PS2.